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Post by davosp on Jan 15, 2016 6:09:58 GMT
Hi Short answerIf you're not willing to better yourself in a society that gives you the opportunity, you deserve what you get. But if you want people to not be poor, you need to provide those opportunities, and make them accessible. Slightly longer answer with rough edges![]() People work based off incentives. If people are fine getting whatever check they get for being unemployed and living off it, that's their right. We can't force them as Americans to do anything they don't want to do unless they've broken a law. If bettering yourself is an extremely difficult task, then education that will help or a low-skill job have to be available. So far, the biggest problem with the industry (as I see it) is that we can't go through every person and see what they need individually. If we want to change how our people act, we need to offer better help. |
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Post by jolson03 on Jan 15, 2016 6:47:08 GMT
You take a very strong stance (which I appreciate), only question I have is do you have any ideas how to offer general support (not specific to individuals, but to an entire groups need) and how to determine what the support is? For some, its food stamps the provide the most help, for others its housing options, and for others its monetary support. And of course there are others, but if we wanted to provide these support systems which in some cases already exist, how do we make them "better"?
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Post by davosp on Jan 15, 2016 7:02:07 GMT
I kind of detest help when it's generalized to a broader margin. If people aren't seen as "the group who need schooling" and "the group who have trouble adjusting themselves."
I believe everyone can thrive- my only real suggestion is to keep every possible interest open. I can't stop you from become a pro basket-weaver but if it's what you like go for it.
Yes, there would have to be limits on how much help given out, but I feel they should purely be placed by the available manpower that can be focused on administering help. I just believe anything "standardized" when it comes to someone's potential future is pretty ignorant.
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Post by nicolesalz on Jan 15, 2016 7:11:03 GMT
Although i agree that people work off incentives, i think you are overlooking the fact that many of the unemployed in our society are not satisfied with the outcome of their lives or employment. Many of Americans who are unemployed or receiving minimum wage neither have the time to find (more suitable) work or simply cannot attain a job because of our competitive society. Close to ten million people in the United States are jobless and i doubt that of those 10 million, that most of them are content with "getting whatever pay check they get for being unemployed". I also think Josh makes some valid questions as to how you believe our country should offer better help. To address your belief that everyone has the potential to thrive in society, although the "self-made man" American aspiration is desirable, the reality is that most Americans who have attempted it, have not succeeded and that is why there is such a large gap between the poor and wealthy.
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Post by marthamcgee on Jan 15, 2016 8:48:11 GMT
I do see your point in that if you want to be a basket-weaver you should be able to. However, the problem with this is that weaving baskets may not make you enough money to live off of. This is where passion and economics come into conflict. That makes it hard to maintain support for every single option that a person may want to pursue as some are less viable in creating a healthy income that will actually be able to sustain that person. Passions are great and often they can be turned into a stable source of income with the proper know-how and great idea. Yet most Americans for example cannot start their own small business with marketing and business model and so forth in order to attain what they need to earn a living. Therefore I must disagree with the idea that every person can find their own passion and should be supported for this.
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Post by ryanfisherle on Jan 16, 2016 3:01:15 GMT
Poverty is definitely a combined effort. If you're not willing to put in the effort and time to work and better yourself, you do not deserve the help and resources provided. Conversely, that help needs to be available to those willing to work. "Free money" doesn't work, so the help should take the form of education, healthcare, etc. This way, people learn early on the values of working hard and having drive. This would help to solve the problem of poverty. If everyone receives enough education to understand the importance of leading a healthy lifestyle, then people will theoretically make better decisions.
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